Oraft Planet of the Arts Vol.3 No.7 May 1988 Interview: Re: Bill C-54 Bill 30 (Motion Picture Act) Sara Diamond is the spokesperson for the Coalition- For-the-Right-to-View. She is a widely recognized video and installation artist who has exhibited internationally. She has curated many video and multi-media exhibitions including last year’s success- ful Visual evidence exhibition. She teaches both at Video In and here at Emily Carr. SL: There are two bills that affect artists. SD: Yes, Bill C-54 is the proposed amend- ments to the criminal code of Canada on Pornography which would replace the existing criminal code legislation, and it is the bill that has been in the news a lot recently. It is a Federal bill, but it will cover all the provinces and every level of cultural production. There’s been quite a reaction around it because it is the bill that says any depiction of sexual intercourse or any depiction of human sexuality that is explicit will be completely illegal in Canada. It also forbids any sexual images to be available to people 18 years and under. Part of the reaction has been around concerns for AIDS education and sex education for younger people. Just think of the implication of what it means to ban visual and written depictions of human sexuality, and the kind of society that it implies we would be living in if it passes. The bill-has currently gone through second reading and hasn't yet passed the House of Commons, but with any likelihood it will sometime in the next month. The other piece of legislation is called the Motion Picture Act which used to be Bill 30. It is now law in British Columbia. What it sets up is a system of classification and censorship for films and video material produced in the province. It requires that those be screened and classified, and gives the very broad right of censorship to the Classification Branch. Video artists in particular have been militantly opposed to it. SL: Who are these ‘Classifiers?’ SD: The head of the Classification Branch is Mary Louise Auslane. She is a civil servant. In her thinking, she is relatively liberal, but she is certainly a staff person who could disappear if her framework doesn’t jive with that of the government. Employees of hers, responsible to her, also classify material. | think that the concern that people have had is not whether or not these people are knowl- edgeable about film and video, which , of course is a concern, but that allowing a small body of people the right to choose what artists can produce and what can be shown is pretty terrifying. Theoretically, every screening, including screenings at artist run centers, are supposed to submit the work in advance or write for an exemption—in some way negotiate with them for permission to show the work. Video centers have been quite adamant in refusing to recognize them. To some extent the classification branch has publically stated that they don’t want to end up in some confron- tation with artists, which is what has happened in Ontario with similar legislation. SL: How does that affect me as a video student? SD: It will affect you as any kind of video producer. It wouldn’t necessarily have to be sexual content; they have also classified work because of political content. It means that if you want to screen your tape, you would have to submit it to the Classifi- cation Branch before screening. Artist run centers and galleries have not complied, but film centers have, so there is a problem. A lot of people in the video community would like to see the film community be alittle bit more hardline in how they deal with censorship. Where you will really run into problems is when Bill C-54 is proclaimed, because if you deal with sexual content in your work, if you even refer to it, your work will have to be classified depending on the nature of the content so that it can only be shown to a certain kind of audience, have warnings on it, be behind a barrier and so on. If the sexuality is explicit, the work itself will be illegal. The proposed law has.in it something called “the Defence of Artistic Merit,” which is really a joke. As an artist, if my work is seized, | can go into the court room and argue that there is artistic merit in the work if it shows sexual intercourse. If it deals with youth sexuality, or any kind of sexual violence, even if it is critical of that violence, | don’t have that defence. But if it is explicit, | can plead that it has artistic merit. Then, the judge and the jury will act as the art critic and decide whether or not my work is of value. You can just imagine the kind or trials that are going to take place; there’s going to be a number of years of sheer mayhem. SE: It’s almost as unbelievable as the abortion debates in this province. SD: Unfortunately, | think that they are all connected, certainly with Bill C-54 on the Federal level. | don’t think a lot of people in Cabinet are behind this legislation in their hearts, but they have drafted, and are going to stand behind, a bill that they know the extreme right in Canada, which is part of their electoral base, is going to be thrilled about and has lobbied for. Part of the reason they are doing that is because the far right lost on capital punishment and lost on the Supreme Court ruling on abortion—which is a real victory for choice, although in B.C. it was at first perversely turned around. In a way, they are giving them something that there is less public protest around than the right to choose on abortion or capital punishment. smouyeW epualy rat Plaetofthe Ars Yol.3 No.7 May 1588 Interview: S Re: Bill C54 Bill 30 (Motion Picture Act) Sara Diamond is the spokesperson for the Coaltion- For-the-Right-to-View. She is a widely recognized video and installation artist who has exhibited internationally. She has curated many video and multi-media exhibitions including last year's success- {ul Visual evidence exhibition. She teaches both at Video In and here at Emily Carr SL: There aro two bills that affect artists. SD: _ Yes, Bill -54ii the proposed amend ‘ments tothe criminal code of Canada on Pornography Which would replace the existing criminal code legislation, and it isthe bill hat has been in the news alot recently. itis a Federal bil, but t will cover all the provinces and every level of cultural production, ‘There's boon quite a reaction around itbecause itis the bill hat says any depiction of sexual intercourse ‘or any depiction of human sexual that is explict wil be completely llogal in Canada, i also forbids any sexual images to be available to people 18 years and under. Part of the reaction has been around concerns for AIDS edueation and sex education for younger people. Just thik ofthe implication of what it means to ban visual and written depictions of human, sexuality, and the kind of society that it implies we would be living int passes. The bilthas currently gone through second reading and hasn't yet passed. the House of Commons, but with any likelinood it will sometime in the next month, The other piece o legislation is called the Motion Picture Act which used to be Bill 30. Itis now law in British Columbia. What it sets up is a system of, classification and censorship for films and video ‘material produced in the provines. Itrequires that those be screened and classified, and gives the very broad right of censorship to the Classification Branch, Video artists in particular have been miitantly opposed to it. SL: Who are these ‘Classifiers?” SD: The head of the Classification Branch is Mary Louise Ausiane. She isa civil servant. In her thinking, she is relatively liberal, but sho is Cortainly a staff person who could disappear if her framework doesn't jive with that of the government. 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It wouldn't necessarily have to be sexual Content; they have also classified work because of political content. it means that if you want to screen Yyour tape, you would have to submit it to the Classi Cation Branch before screening. Artist run conters and galleries have not complied, but film centers hhave, so there is a problem. Alot of people in the video community would like to see the film community bo a itle bit more hardline in how they deal with Cconsorship. Where you will really un into problems is. when Bill C-54is proclaimed, because f you deal with ‘sexual content in your work, if you even refer to it your work will have to be classified depending on the nature ofthe content so that itcan only be shown to a ‘certain kind of audience, have warnings on it, be bohind a barrier and soon. ifthe sexualty is explicit, the work itself wil be illegal The proposed law has in it something called the Defence of Artistic Meri,” which is really ajoke. 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Part of the reason they are doing that is because the far right lost on capital punishment and lost on the Supreme Court ruling on abortion—which is a eal victory for choice, although in B.C. itwas at first perversely turned around. In a way, they are ‘giving them something that there is loss public protest around than the right to choose on abortion or capital punishment,