brass Enclosed are exerpts from an interview with Tom Hudson, Deal of Instruction, on matters of immediate concern to everyone at the school. This issue will deal with mat- ters of Finance. A complete copy of the text of the Dean’s comments is on file in the newspaper office in the cafeteria for anyone to read. THE BUDGET; “We are still trying to find ways to balance this year’s budget. We still have outstanding deficiencies and those people who are responsible for administering the areas are taking a final look and exercising their responsibilities to make readjustments. It is the job of the administration, par- ticularly the Bursar and Finance depart- ment to determine how the budget is managed, balanced etc. . . ., but the way it is spent is determined by administration, the various committees of the college which are all advisory committees; i.e. Dean’s Committee (divisional chairmen) Student Services Committee, Programs Advisory Committee (Senior advisory committee of the college) and of course the various consti- tuent committees of the college via the Prin- cipal and the minutes of the various meetings reported to the board.”’ As to your Question about the current situation, we have been in a status quo situation for about three yars in terms of money aspects of our budget. Salaries of course increasing each year (this year 13%), but since 1979 supplies budgets re- mained the same therefore losing annually about 13% of their buying power.”’ “In the last four years, quite apart from the massive capital expenditure, our operating costs for a year have increased from $2,000,000 to over $4,000,000.”’ CUTBACKS; ‘I mentioned about the cutback situation and that this year we are using a great deal of money which we had in reserve, but once that money is spent it is spent & so we are still looking at additional cutbacks. When the Ministry asked us which courses we were cutting, we said we are not cutting any as all are important as integrated art and design programs. The cutbacks don’t necessarily reflect the government’s attitude towards art, it reflects the government’s response to the current economic situation. Similar things are happening throughout the western world so it does seem that most support is being put to ‘‘vocational oriented courses’’. However, you can see by the new building that the provincial government has been prepared to make a serious investment for art eduction and has endorsed the design tacks developments by changing the name of the college, which goes towards some kind of guarantee of future developments when money becomes more readily available.’’ ‘*This year and currently we have so far reduced a typical $30,000 divisional budget down to $27,000 and that might not be the end of it. The situation is similar but less noticeable in some other areas; i.e. honoraria for guest lecturers, no direct cut but we have had to cut some proportion of the amount spent on travel. So there are both direct and indirect cuts.”’ “‘By early closing, which we discussed at the last Dean’s Committee Meeting and have asked divisions to discuss it and give us advice, there are a number of possibilities that are related to the amount of savings;. e.g. We can save about $800 daily if we close on the eight statutory public holidays which happen during the academic year. This is a very good way of saving only affec- ting eight separate days of holidays. The next way we can save a lot of money, in fact we could save anywhere up to $20,000 in the year, but cutting more of the weekends. The reason for this is on a statutory holiday we are paying security and other people three times the normal rate, at a weekend we are paying two times the normal rate. There seems to be comparatively very little saving by closing evenings during the weekdays and that frankly I would not want to close.” “Incidentally, of course, we have had to take a cutback in articulation area; i.e. in field trips/student travel. We are still managing to hold on to a little, but certainly we have to look upon last year’s $26,000 as being quite incredible and unique under the circumstances.”’ “At the current time it is going to be dif- ficult to hold onto the two areas which we have curricular travel — the major support for the annual visit of ceramics students to Mexico and a number of painters/print- makers to New York. “‘The concourse Gallery operated last year with an official expenditure of only $500 because everybody was doing the work on a self-help basis’’. “I am trying to keep a few hundred dollars for similar purposes this year, but we will not be able to seriously develop that currently; i.e. provide audio and film booths, large scale back projectors, sets of frames etc. . . ., probably for some years yet, “The Charles H. Scott Gallery was never properly funded by the Ministry and INTERVIEW: TOM HUDSON like everywhere else will have to take some measure of cuts. We may also have to find some external funding for it in the future.”’ “On your question related to new machinery and technology in the school > ‘“The situation has been deplorable this year. I had requests from the divisions to a total of $400,000 for capital equipment. The full total awarded to us by the Ministry was $32,000 for the year. I have reduced, by working out with the relevant committee a’ system of priorities, that this year we ac- tually needed approximately $176,000 to continue the condition of growth.”’ “Don’t forget that this year because of the equipment obsolescence, deterioration, etc ..., we had over $100,000 of equip- ment which should have been replaced, quite separate from the above capital statements. We also had round about $70,000 of obsolescence in last year’s budget. Again, none of those items were replaced. The figure for next year will be even larger.”’ TUITION: “Fees . . . virtually no increase this year. In October the Chairman of the Board will be instituting discussions on the future in- crease of fees. We have not increased fees significantly over the last one half dozen years or so. I think that was a mistake now, I think it is better to have annual small in- creases than to have no increase for several years and then a large increase; however, there is no intention of massive increases such as has happened at some colleges and which has been the subject of rumour here. The Chairman thought that we should in- form students about the government cut- backs and asked Tom Kowall for a lot of in- formation about colleges’ fee structure in *various areas. Don’t forget, our fees are still the second lowest in North America for a four year college and it costs between $6,000 and $8,000 per year for students to be educated in this place.”’ “‘We had discussions about a supply store, the whole situation was costed out and we would not find it possible to operate with fiscal efectiveness; i.e. making enough money to run the store, pay the manager/ clerk and still be able to provide a better deal than any existing firms. Another aspect is that the area originally designated for a store had to be taken over for the Finance Department once we got our independance and were severed from Vancouver Com- munity College, who previously carried out so much of the administration.”’ “I don’t want to sort of end by being a prophet of doom, because I have been in education a long time and it is generally a swing and roundabout situation. I think that probably this is the downswing and we should look forward by 1982-83 to some kind of an improvement.”’